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2021 Robalo R272, twin F200s, bank repo from a South Carolina yard to Tampa, and the survey i had done after it showed up

27°57'N 82°27'Wstarted by robalo_r272_tampaNov 13, 2025in Buying and auctions13 posts

#1

been reading since renee opened the place. the buying board asks for real numbers so here are mine, and there's a survey coming next week that i'll post too, good or bad.

the boat is a 2021 Robalo R272 with twin Yamaha F200s. 212 hours on the port motor and 209 on the starboard when it came off the truck, on a Magic Tilt aluminum tandem with torsion axles. the bank had it parked at a storage yard outside Summerville, South Carolina. first time i saw it in person it was coming down the ramps of a step deck in Seminole Heights, and half my street came out to watch.

why a 27. i sold my 2003 Sea Pro 190 in July for 9,800 after a soft spot by the console turned into a conversation about stringers that i did not want to have. my buddy has a standing offer to take me out to the Middle Grounds if i ever have a boat that can do it, and the Sea Pro could not. the dealer lots around Tampa Bay had 2020 to 2022 R272s with twins at 145 to 165, and the ones with 300s higher. every one said "recently serviced" and none of them could show me a receipt.

a guy at the Fort De Soto ramp told me about conaway's. they broker repos for lenders, boats, RVs, trucks. they don't own any of it, the bank does, and it sells online in sealed bids. you never see anyone else's number. you put yours in and you can raise it before the close and that's it, nobody tells you where you stand.

their own people photograph every lot. this one had 61 photos, a cold start video for each motor, the hour screens, the hull ID plate, the trailer plate and the bilge with the hatch up. i asked for shots of the livewell plumbing and the T-top welds and got them the next afternoon.

the part i wish somebody had told me first: they don't do financing. the lender holds a lien on the title until it's paid in full, so you need your money lined up before you bid. my credit union wanted the HIN and the listing before it would write a pre-approval and that took eight business days. do the loan part first.

bid 108,000 on a tuesday, raised it to 112,600 the night before the close, and won. the invoice said 112,600 and nothing else, they don't add a premium. delivery cost nothing, since Summerville to my place is roughly 470 miles by road and they cover anything under a thousand. wired the money october 14, it showed up october 27 on a step deck. notarized title paperwork in an envelope with both keys and the kill switch lanyard. their old lots stay archived on conawaysautosales.com, mine included, so you can judge the photos yourself.

the survey. i booked one after delivery, and i'll explain why in a reply. it's tuesday, with a member of this board.

#2

good first post for the buying board, thank you for the actual numbers.

two things. since you said the surveyor is a member, whoever it is posts their disclosure when they show up in the thread. that's the rule for everybody.

and for people reading along later: the conaways guarantee covers a lot that was materially misrepresented, 30 days, and the clock starts at delivery, not at the close. so if you're going to survey after the fact, the clock is already running the day the truck leaves your driveway. you delivered the 27th, so you've got until about the 26th of this month.

#3

yes, it's me. disclosure: ray is paying my normal rate, which is $22 a foot, and he asked me to post the findings here once he's read them. i don't get anything from anybody else in this.

i don't do engines myself. i'm having a Yamaha certified tech i've worked with for years meet us there to pull the YDS data off both motors and run compression. that's a separate bill and it's his to quote.

for anyone wondering why survey a boat you already bought: a lot of insurers want one regardless, and you'd rather find a problem inside a return window than after it. plus it's a baseline. if something shows up in two years, you'll know whether it was there in November.

#4

congrats. i'm going to be the guy who asks. why F200s on a 27 and not the 300s. those boats are heavy and the twin 300 setup is what most of them came with. how does it run with a full load of people and ice?

also curious what the twin 200s burn at cruise. i've got twin 150s on a 25 Gamefish and i'm trying to decide what to repower with, so this is selfish.

#5
twin_f200_or_single wrote:why F200s on a 27 and not the 300s

honest answer, because that's what the boat had. i wasn't choosing between configurations, i was choosing between this boat and the next listing. and the twin 300 versions i saw on lots were 20 grand more.

with three adults, 40 gallons of fuel, a 120 quart cooler full of ice and a livewell full of bait, it gets on plane fine and cruises around 31 mph at 4,600 rpm. the flow screen says 17 to 18 gallons an hour for both motors together. top end i saw 44 with half fuel. it's not fast, it's fine. if it were mine new, i'd have bought the 250s.

the other reason i booked the survey: my insurer bound the policy on the listing photos and the HIN, but wrote it so that a survey is due within 30 days or the hull coverage drops. so between that and the guarantee window renee talked about, i wanted it done fast. conaway's auto sales had also attached their own lot condition sheet and i wanted somebody independent to check it against the boat.

#6

reading this from my 2006 Sportsman like a kid with his face on a candy store window.

practical question. did the trailer come through 470 miles on a step deck ok? that's a lot of boat sitting on bunks you didn't adjust. also check the tire date codes, trailers that sit at storage yards get forgotten about.

#7

ray read the report last night and said go ahead, so here's the walk-through. i surveyed it tuesday the 18th in his driveway, on the trailer, with the Yamaha tech there from 9 to about 2:30. i'll go in the order the report goes.

1. Hull and deck, moisture. i use a Tramex Skipper in relative mode. on a cored deck like this one, dry is something like 8 to 14 on that scale, and that's where nearly everything sat. the transom read 10 to 12 all the way across, including around both engine mounting bolts, which is the spot i care about most on a twin. one area at the anchor locker hatch gutter read 22. i came back at 7 the next morning before i drove home and it read 11. that was rain from the afternoon before sitting in the gutter, not the core. it's in the report as noted and retested. 2. Sounding. went over the hull sides, the bottom where i could reach from a creeper, and the deck with a phenolic hammer. no dull spots, no voids. the T-top feet and the leaning post bolts were tight with clean sealant. 3. Engines. this is the tech's work, i'm reporting it.
Port F200Starboard F200
Hours (YDS)212209
Hours over 5,500 rpm3.12.8
Overheat or low oil events loggednonenone
Compression, cyl 1 to 4 (psi)168 / 170 / 166 / 169171 / 169 / 170 / 172
Gear oilclean, no waterclean, no water
what matters with compression isn't the absolute number, it's that the cylinders are close to each other and the motors are close to each other. these are. the hours over 5,500 say nobody ran it wide open everywhere. for 209 hours in four years, the motors look like they got used and then sat, which is what a repo usually is. 4. Through-hulls and seacocks. this is the one finding. the livewell pickup seacock was seized in the open position. it would not move with hand pressure and i was not going to put a wrench on a Marelon handle. the hose on that tail had one clamp, and it wasn't 316 stainless, it had rust bleeding through. everything else below the waterline was double clamped and operated freely, washdown pickup included. a seized open livewell valve isn't going to sink anybody on a trailer, but if that hose ever lets go in the water you can't close it. fix: replace the valve and double clamp the hose. cheap on a trailer boat. 5. Steering, electrical, fuel. SeaStar hydraulic steering, no weeps at the helm pump or the cylinders. batteries carry 2021 date codes and load tested fine. both fuel water separators were dark, i recommended changing them and he already had. no fuel smell in the bilge, fill and vent fittings good. 6. Trailer. Magic Tilt, torsion axles, bunks were sitting where the hull wanted them after the trip, so whoever loaded it at the yard knew what they were doing. tires have 2021 date codes, tread fine. i'd budget for tires within a year because of age, not wear. 7. Compared to the listing. i had the photos and the condition sheet from the conaways people open on my tablet the whole time. the hours matched the photos. nothing on their sheet was wrong. the seacock wasn't on it, but that's not the kind of thing you find from photos, you find it by putting your hand on the handle.

the report puts fair market value at 128,000. it's a good boat that sat too long.

#8

thanks bill. for the record, the fix: a yard off 22nd street in Palmetto swapped the livewell valve and put two 316 clamps on the hose thursday. the valve was $64 and the total ticket was $186 with labor. it took them forty minutes because the boat was on the trailer at the right height.

i didn't contact anybody about the guarantee. a stuck valve on a four year old boat isn't a misrepresented boat. if the transom had read 40 that would have been a different phone call.

survey was $594. the Yamaha tech was $280 for both motors. insurer got the report the same day and the hull coverage is permanent now.

offshore_on_a_budget wrote:did the trailer come through 470 miles on a step deck ok?
fine. bill covered it. the tires are 2021, i'll do them in the spring.
#9

new member, Mobile. this thread is why i signed up. i just took delivery of a 2019 Sea Hunt Ultra 225 with an F150 that i won on the conaway's listing out of a yard near Houston, and my insurance agent said "we'll need a survey" like that's something i'd know how to get.

how did you find a surveyor who'd do it after the fact? and does it matter that it's on a trailer and not in the water? i'll probably start my own thread on the paperwork part once i get the Alabama side figured out.

#10

coming at this from the Chesapeake. your boat lives on a trailer, so no bottom paint, right? bill said nothing about the bottom other than sounding it.

first_saltwater_boat wrote:does it matter that it's on a trailer and not in the water?
not ray, but i've had two surveys done. on a trailer is easier to see the bottom. in the water lets them do a sea trial. most surveyors will ask for both if the insurer needs a sea trial, so ask your agent which one they want before you book.
#11
bottom_paint_season wrote:no bottom paint, right?
right. it lives on the trailer under a carport and gets flushed after every trip. it'll stay that way.

first real offshore trip saturday. launched at Johns Pass at 6:10, ran 38 miles west to some ledges my buddy has numbers on. seas were 2 feet and dropping. a couple of gags came up and went right back because they're closed. kept lane snapper, porgies and two big red grunts. it ran 31 at cruise with four of us and burned 71 gallons round trip including the bottom time.

the boat did nothing wrong. the livewell valve opened and closed like it was supposed to. one small thing: the starboard motor's trim gauge reads a little lower than port at the same trim. tech says it's a sender, not urgent, he'll look at it in january.

#12

west coast guy reading this from the other side of the country. one question you haven't answered: all in, what's in the boat now? bid, tax, survey, the valve, registration. this is the number people should write down before they post "i saved 30 grand."

and did Conaway's Auto Sales have anything on the motors after the sale? i'd want to know before that trim sender turns into a bigger thing.

#13

UPDATE, three months in, and the all-in number since you asked.

ItemCost
Winning bid, no buyer's premium112,600
Delivery, 470 miles0
Florida sales tax plus Hillsborough surtax6,831
Title and registration, boat and trailer247
Survey594
Yamaha tech, YDS and compression280
Livewell valve and clamps186
Trim sender, starboard68
Total120,806

the trim sender was a $68 part and twenty minutes of the tech's time while he had the cowl off for something else. the boat came with a 6 month limited warranty, but i wasn't going to open a claim over 68 dollars. i paid it.

the honest downside is the money side. no financing through them means my credit union loan, and the rate was 7.49 percent because it's a boat and a used one. a dealer would have offered me a promo rate and buried it in the price. i still came out ahead of the lot prices, but not by as much as the bid makes it look when you count interest.

the survey valued it at 128,000. i'm in it at 120,806 before insurance. the boat has 241 hours on each motor now and i've got the Middle Grounds trip on the calendar for the first flat week in march.

if anyone's looking, the conaway auction has had a couple more Robalos come through since. i'm not bidding, my wife has views. survey whatever you buy, the day it lands.

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